Thoughts on Standing and Treadmill DesksIntroduction
I am writing this on a treadmill desk. Before owning it I used a standup desk for over a year.
believe that about 90% of people would be happier with a standing desk
than with a sitting desk. In the future we will wonder why people sat
for centuries when standing is a much more natural pose for humans.
I believe that at least 25% of people would be happier with a treadmill desk than with a standing desk.
these numbers are pulled out of thin air, I have no data, but given
these beliefs I figured I would try to help those 90% and 25% figure
out who they are.
data: at least 4 colleagues in my floor have started using standup
desks since I set my own up. This relationship is causal.)
The origin story.
I gave a talk in Stanford in 2011.
The GSB's new building had adjustable height desks in every office; everyone I talked to loved working standing up.
figured I am like most Stanford faculty, or I would like to be, so I
inferred I would like it too.
I also thought that at libraries and
when printing boarding passes at the airport I interact with a computer standing up and it never
So I decided to buy one.
Buying a standing desk
wanted the option to be able to sit down if I was tired.
After researching alternatives I bought an Ergotron Workfit S from Amazon for under $400.
is a desk addon that you put on top of any regular desk and allows
working standing or sitting. You just pull it up and down with your hand as needed. It seems to be the best hybrid option out
(others include the Kangoroo and pricier entire adjustable height desks;
these are impractical if you need to keep your original office
furniture as was my case).
Anyway, this is a stock pic of the Ergotron I bought (see funny promotional video)
installed (takes about 30 minutes) you can go from sitting back to standing on your existing
desk in about 5 seconds, and back to sitting in another 5 seconds.
I loved standing in general, loved it. I only liked the Ergotron.
It has three main problems:
- Some vibration of monitors as you type (this does not bother most people, but it did bother me).
- Not much working space to rest a book, papers, coffee mug, etc. while you work
- It has a bit of an ugly/clumsy design (i know, not like that cool treadmill I have now...)
If I had not moved on to a treadmill, and were to simply use a standup desk, I would replace the Ergotron.
of an adjustable height desk, I would have an always standing desk next
to my regular desk. I have that with my treadmill, just added a third
monitor in front of a chair and I use a wireless keyboard+mouse that I
moved back and forth as needed.
have a standing and a sitting working areas. This setup would work in
all but the smallest of working areas (probably not in a cubicle, there
you need the addon).
Amazon offers this standing desk (I use it at home, set up in minutes, sturdy, comfortable, but a bit pricey for what it is).
You can be creative and get quite cheap, better looking, larger, and customized to your needs IKEA hacks. I would do any of these before I bought the one above again (more hacks here, here, here, here.)
If money is no issue, you can buy desks for up to $4k.
Doesn't it look kinda ridiculous?
Yes, a little bit. It is not a fashion statement (or rather, a statement that you don't much care about fashion).
Don't you get tired?
I spend about 3 hours a day walking (I've had it for a 1
month). Another 2 hours I stand without walking (I stand on the
treadmill). About 30 minutes sitting, and the rest of the time on
coffee-breaks, lunch, meetings, etc.
What can you do and cannot do while walking?
do almost everything on the treadmill (e.g., this document). Keyboard
and mouse use are not at all impacted (it is surprising, but
true; but i do use a trackball, not a mouse, some say mouse is a bit
I can read and write research papers 0 problem. I can program routine stats stuff (STATA, SAS, R). I can set up slides.
For heavy duty thinking about mathy stuff I turn the treadmill off (say, to derive a formula, or set up a new algorithm).
Oh, I do drink coffee on the treadmill (that would be a deal breaker)
Like most treadmill desk users, I walk at about 2.5 mph.
Why did I do it?
A friend told me about his treadmill desk and I thought it was crazy.
when I had to stop biking to work I wanted an alternative to
exercise with 0 marginal time cost, and gave it a try.
was used to it by the 3rd day. I absolutely love it now. I burn more
calories now in my office than I used to in my 6 mile each way bike
I am arguably less likely to be hit by a Honda Accord now (I am OK, at least it was not raining).
bought an expensive treadmill marketed to be used under a desk, thinking that if I tried
and did not like it I wanted to make sure I had given it its best shot.
I bought for nearly $1k the LifespanTR-1200 DT3
; they are a well known brand of
treadmill makers and supposedly
this one is designed to withstand being on for hours on low speed and
to be quiet (I went to a local Leisure Fitness to give it a look and try before
buying -I bought online but only because they were out of stock).
TR-1200 It is indeed really quiet, makes less noise than the laser
printer on the hallway I can hear right now. You cannot hear my
treadmill from oustide my
office with the door open.
I understand that cheaper treadmills are louder, don't know for sure.
There are two versions of the TR-1200: with and without desk. The one with desk
( DT5) is $1500.
I thought the desk looked ugly (see above), was expensive
and was not ergonometric (need monitors much higher than hands), so bought the DT3, just the treadmill base
with no desk and made my own addon for the desk I already had (see below)
The addon costs about $200. It has three parts:
1) The "base": three IKEA Lekman boxes [the red things] ($12 a piece). They sit unattached to the desk, the weight on top keeps them in place [5 min to set up]
2) Desk surface is an Ikea Expedit
Desk ($50) [it includes two parts, I discarded the smaller one], also
just rests on the boxes, weight of monitors keeps it in place. [1 min to open the box]
3) For the monitors stand I bought quad
stand (for 4 monitors). I only have two, 23'' each, but needed the
extra length for the pole, a stand for 2 monitors would have been too
low. [10 min to set up]
Before making this addon I figured out the dimensions i needed by
experimenting with a flat surface that i raised and lowered using book
Cheaper options for the treadmill
I almost bought this $250 regular treadmill which many have taken the front end apart to use under a desk. Info on this option here, here and here .
Or read Amazon reviews for this treadmill that include the word desk on them
The main downsides are that it will be louder, and takes more setup costs, but probably not that much.
Too late I learnt of this cheaper Lifespan TD-800,
it seems that the only difference is that it is a bit shorter, I do
have a foot to spare in mine so I would give the 800 serious thought
(though I am 5'10, if you are reading this in Europe or after dunking a
basketball you may need the 1200) The 800 is $800.